I agree Metro, and I was aware of Jarret's involvement, but my frustration with some within KOCC clouded my judgement in my last post. That said, I have a couple of mates at KOCC who I was hoping to get a bite out of but alas that hasnt happened as yet. I hope the executive over there becomes more active in things outside the 'feather your own nest topics' otherwise it may well come back to bite them.