I've said this before, and I will say it again...why doesn;t HDCC approach KOCC and say "Can we have you host our Champsionship ITT this Saturday? No operating costs for HDCC, KOCC gets more peopel to an event, and more importantly there is a common ITT time for all KOCC and HDCC people who participate, which might assist Brett H and PaulMc/LeeK to handicap riders of both clubs in handicaps. Can't see any real down side at all.